tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6356363460965043698.post2973034941402384682..comments2023-12-24T00:52:24.736+00:00Comments on Jody Stowell: meet the fcaJody Stowellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15534042687275254272noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6356363460965043698.post-52695667327701704102009-07-07T17:38:53.390+01:002009-07-07T17:38:53.390+01:00Thanks Jofy -that's helpful context and I'...Thanks Jofy -that's helpful context and I'd not picked up on that emphasis the first time. I guess that's a helpful lesson about the rhetoric we use and how we use it. Something that may be true (e.g. that sometimes people have been narcssitic in the God name debate) is not absolute (some people come from one motive, others from others -and so for example it seems reasonabe to me to acknowledge why some (many?) might find the word Father difficult).<br /><br />The link with "Lord" is helpful. I hope everyone clls God Creator-Redeemer--Sustainer but that applies to each member of the Trinity rather than Father =Creator Son =Sustainer etc. The Son is Creator, rdeemer, sustainerDave Williamsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6356363460965043698.post-21510515282186001742009-07-07T17:21:23.664+01:002009-07-07T17:21:23.664+01:00the thing that i didn't particularly like abou...the thing that i didn't particularly like about his commentary on that way of speaking was that he put engagement with the debate on the trinitarian language down to a totally narcisstic origin, which is misrepresentative of some of the careful reflection that has been done on this in the last few years.<br /><br />you are right that i make the comment about the lack of relational language and also about the 'given-ness' of father son spirit, which makes it impossible for us to replace it with another formula - however i am happy to use creator redeemer sustainer, in the same way that i am happy to use 'lord', 'the almighty one', 'saviour', 'comforter'.Jody Stowellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15534042687275254272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6356363460965043698.post-86669710386326659622009-07-07T16:06:15.974+01:002009-07-07T16:06:15.974+01:00I see John Richardson has written up his reflexion...I see John Richardson has written up his reflexions which make interesting reading from another perspective.<br /><br />Also -the impression I've got from other write ups was that the point about "Creator-redeemer-sustainor" language was that it was inadequate as a replacement for "Father-Sn-Spirit" I'm sre you made similar comments i your own essay on naming God? It's certainly nothing new and has other problems as well as its functionalism (it's also a tad modalisitc and denies inseperable operation)<br /><br />Dave<br /><br />(word verification defables -should i make anything of that?)Dave Wnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6356363460965043698.post-57458075971261672202009-07-07T15:23:31.708+01:002009-07-07T15:23:31.708+01:00Thanks for that... do write up the rest when you c...Thanks for that... do write up the rest when you can. I'd value your thoughts as someone whose opinion I respect.Davidhttp://www.wannabepriest.org.uknoreply@blogger.com