tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6356363460965043698.post2176360373732350373..comments2023-12-24T00:52:24.736+00:00Comments on Jody Stowell: what happens if i push that big red button....?Jody Stowellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15534042687275254272noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6356363460965043698.post-69921395662763677982011-10-27T09:44:16.222+01:002011-10-27T09:44:16.222+01:00Years ago went with my wife Sue to famous Christia...Years ago went with my wife Sue to famous Christian conference at which she was speaking and I was accompanying. The lads club approach still meant that when someone complained about cold chalets I was told that it was OK for me because I had brought my hot water bottle. Most men couldn't see why this was sexist and no joke. Not a lot has changed beneath the surface in many leadership circles since, I fear.rogerhaydonmitchellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6356363460965043698.post-77607456236471545772011-09-07T22:20:28.301+01:002011-09-07T22:20:28.301+01:00Hi Jody,
I'm a complementarian I'm afraid...Hi Jody, <br />I'm a complementarian I'm afraid ... but I don't really want to be. I don't have any problem with women, and I love working alongside women in ministry. I'd love not to be a complementarian if I'm honest but I'm unable to read scripture in a way which doesn't say that to me. It's a tricky one. <br /><br />I'm not sure I fully understand which way your blog post is going, but it might be that we feel the same way about this one judging by how you end your post. <br /><br />For every woman in your position who feels they are 'not welcome' in some way, I think there are people on the opposite side who are made to feel 'not welcome' in the church of england by their supposedly out of touch, bigoted, sexist or simply stupid beliefs. That's how it seems to come across anyway. <br /><br />I quite agree that ordained women are given a rough ride and wrongly so. But I am also aware of the incredibly rough ride I've had as a man and a complementarian in recent years. I'm sneered at, sidelined and treated suspiciously. I don't mean to be bigoted, I'm just trying to place scripture above my own feelings. <br /><br />Scripture is of course open to interpretation by different camps and I'm sure I'm a product of the camp I'm from and blinkered in some ways by it, ... but I do my best to be honest with it and humble to what Scripture might say to me if I fully open myself to it and allow it to change me if I'm wrong. Over the years I've changed my view on a good number of things, but the one about the headship of women just won't shift. <br /><br />I don't like egalitarians being rude to me about it, and it upsets me greatly when I'm treated like I'm stupid. I used to be considered orthodox, and now all of a sudden it turns out that I'm a heretic. <br /><br />You're my sister in Christ and together we form part of the body of Christ and the priesthood of all believers. That much I know and celebrate. The outworking of roles within that we might differ on, but I delight in the eternity and kingdom which we will share together.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6356363460965043698.post-29952515599484844632011-08-08T18:16:10.761+01:002011-08-08T18:16:10.761+01:00You make the same point the Fabio Sani does in his...You make the same point the Fabio Sani does in his papers on the CofE and group psychology. When a person's identity is based on an ideology of what constitutes their group and that ideology is challenged their identity is challenged. BTW i still have the journals out of the UL so you can have a look on tues eve if you want.s bradfordnoreply@blogger.com